Question #1

Posted At : November 9, 2007 7:21 AM
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Rush yellow to penult. Take off to blue, ideally obtaining a rush to C2. Stop blue into the lawn obtaining a rush on black to 4-b. Make 4-b, croquet black to the peg going to blue. Croquet blue to rover going to yellow. Make penult and go to peg with a diagonal spread with blue 4 yards in from West boundary.

# Posted By Chris Clarke | 11/12/07 8:55 AM

This would be easier to answer if more information were given. For starters, which game -- Association or US rules? Where are the blue and black clips? What is the ability level of the players?

# Posted By Jeff Soo | 11/12/07 9:01 AM

Sorry about this oversight! This question concerns Association Rules, but the position of the opponent clips for the answer is not really that relevant...

# Posted By Admin | 11/12/07 10:47 AM

Alternatively, one could cut-rush yellow to a few yards south of blue. This would make it easier to rush blue to C2, while still allowing one to split yellow several yards into the lawn. It should then be possible to send blue to near yellow while getting the rush on black.

While I agree that the clip positions of blue and black are "not really that relevant", they could nonetheless make a difference in the leave one wants to achieve. My approach may make it easier to get a good rush to 4b but harder to achieve a fussy leave. So, for example, if one of the opponent clips is on peg, one might wish to do a "forcing" leave, with the peg ball stuck to the north side of 5.

# Posted By Jeff Soo | 11/13/07 11:19 AM

I think issues about standard of play and opponents clip positions here. While I'd agree with previous comments that in general a break from 4-back to the peg with a leave is probably best, it is difficult to comment on the actual leave without knowing about opponent's clip positions. Chris' proposed leave is fine if the opponent is for 1 and 1, but less so if they were for (say) 4 and 4-back. A vertical spread may also be a consideration here.

Standard of play may also be an issue. If oppo was a very good shot (and hence quite likely to hit a lift), I may consider setting a leave for the hoop 5 ball, with a TP in mind for the following turn.

# Posted By Samir Patel | 11/14/07 6:14 AM

Play Yellow.
1. Roquet Red.
2. Pass roll Red to #6, and Yellow near II.
3. Roquet Black.
4. Take off Black to behind Blue.
5. Rush Blue to front of #5.

With one difficult shot (2), Yellow has a three-ball break, with a good chance of building a four-ball break before #1B.

# Posted By Leo Nikora | 11/15/07 2:31 AM

Re Leo Nikora's "one difficult shot" approach, it seems to me that even after the challenging (impossible on some lawns) pass-roll from around the east end of A-baulk to II, Y does not actually "have" a three-ball break until Y is approaching 5, croqueting U to the non-playing side of 5. The diagram does not show how far U and K are from each other or from the boundary. If U is on the W yard-line 4 or 5 yards S of II, and K is 1 yard off the N yard-line 4 or 5 yards E of II, a take-off from K to get a rush on U to 5 is a challenge in itself. Because U and K appear to be separated by at least several yards, the plays others have suggested, involving a shorter shot to approach U and K, obtaining a rush on one toward the other, appear to have a higher probability of success.

# Posted By Stuart Lawrence | 11/17/07 7:25 AM

Yes I see what Wayne means. As a high bisque player I would have bisques and there would not be much point in using them on red since yellow is the back ball. Yellow roquets red, rolls it to 5 then aims for blue. Take a bisque if missed. Roquet blue, thick take-off to black, or split roll or rush to boundary behind black depending on position but so that blue is a pioneer for 1-back and yellow is in a good position to rush black to 6. Take-off to red and run hoop 5. Beginners may have to take another bisque but this might be well worthwhile to be well set up to go to penult and make a good leave preparatory to taking red to peg. If playing against a similar handicap I believe high bisque players should play on a base of 10 say because the only way to win is to get in a break and maintain it and bisques are not really worth much until you can do that. The learning is of better quality and the game much more interesting.

# Posted By Pat Kennett | 11/18/07 1:28 AM

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